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Knjiga Prva oseba množine je pretresljiva avtobiografska pripoved Camerona Westa, ki se je moral pri zrelih tridesetih letih nenadoma soočiti in spopasti z boleznijo, imenovano disociativna osebnostna motnja. West, uspešen poslovnež, srečno poročen mož in oče fantka, začne nekega dne odkrivati simptome te bolezni: notranje glasove, obdobja nezavedanja samega sebe, izgubo spomina ... S pomočjo žene in terapevtov mu uspe v sebi identificirati 24 osebnosti različnih starosti in obeh spolov, ki vsaka po svoje pripovedujejo o tem, kako je bil avtor kot majhen deček žrtev incestnih zlorab. Da je lahko kljub tej travmatični izkušnji v vsakdanjem življenju normalno živel in preživel, je dogodke iz zgodnjega otroštva z disociacijo izbrisal iz zavesti. West prepričljivo oriše svoje doživljanje bolezni in poskuse, da bi jo obvladal, pri čemer sta mu v neizmerno pomoč vdana, skoraj herojsko pogumna žena in njun sin. Knjigi dajejo posebno dokumentarno vrednost risbe in zapisi drugih njegovih osebnosti, predvsem otrok, ki presunljivo opozarjajo na neznane sile in globine, ki jih skriva naš razum.
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Iskalnik (Sizif)
Multiple Personality Disorder, which is the same as Dissociative Identity Disorder, is a coping mechanism that very young children use to deal with the extreme stress that trauma causes. For most people, the trauma they are trying to cope with is severe and repeated sexual abuse that is usually being committed by a critical caregiver (such as someone in a parental role). Some people will create MPD in order to cope with other trauma such as physical abuse, verbal/emotional abuse, severe neglect, recurrent invasive medical treatment, and other stressful situations.
A child will use dissociation when they are being emotionally or physically harmed, may fear death will result if the situation continues, and are unable to physically escape the situation. Dissociation is a process in which the person mentally leaves the situation (such as imagining they are elsewhere), loses awareness of the environment or their body (such as no longer being aware of the sensations of pain), or believes that the abuse is happening to someone else (such as seeing the event happening to them as if they were a bystander).
Metaphor: Assume our brain has one box that can deal with holding all the stress in our life. Once that box gets filled, some things can slip out of the box (dissociation). If we realize we don't have enough room in the box, and can't afford to have a lot fall out of the box and clutter up our floor, we can try to create or find more containers. These containers can be big (personalities; alters; insiders, parts) or they may be little and hold only one or two items (fragments, pieces). Today, we can see, that there is a very small amount of therapists, that are dealing with such serious disorder.
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Donation (Therapist DID)
Dissociative identity disorder (DID) is a serious mental disorder, that startes in childhood as ego defense system against all kind of severe abuses, runing at first in the primary family .If abuses are not so strong (includes serious sexuall abuses) that MPD (with several alters) would erase in later years to come, ( in adolescence), one cheaf alter would be created on the unconscious level, ready to come out when needed on the conscious level, as second ego identity.
This second identity is created for communication with abusers, only for The survival of child, for food, shelter, etc. Has more experience than a child, and all kinds of knowledges, even being ancient one and is more adaptive , keeps relations with environment as a whole, The role of therapist in this first step of DID is to recognize the value of first alter. If they become cooperatives, (integration is not allowed-it would means the destruction of alter ego and punishment)) they can manage within the hostile environment. The same situation is with MPD. All alters must have certain respect, from child as from the therapist and are not allowed to be integrated but only cooperatives is possible.
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(Defence) (DEFENDER)
Hello?! Am hearing here that MPD/DID is still not recognized as defense system of self integration, especially dissociation is primarily used for self protection and defense against all kinds of trauma. It is needed for survival.
A history of mood swings from suicidal depression to happily bar hopping can be misinterpreted as a manic depressive (bipolar) pattern. However, 48 hours is the minimum time for a true bipolar illness to cycle, and a multiple can switch every few minutes, as each personality emerges. The patient may be quite conscious of the shifts from glad to sad or may black out while getting angry and wake up feeling hung over and depressed from drinking heavily. Also that alter or alters of ego configuration were specifically acused ( until 1995) for bein schizofrenic personalities or shizoids, with disorders in basic system, such"id" is. Today we know, of course, to see the difference between all of them.
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cikel (Sariko)
Pri dualni disociativnosti Esenca kreira frontni alter, lahko že pri otroku, da se lažje adaptira v nevarno okolje.(socialni alter, the host personality).
Dizajniran je z namenom, da se upre (oz.lažje kontaktira) s ponavljajočimi se fizičnimi ali psihičnimi zlorabami. Ta umetna identiteta lahko dozoreva nekaj let na podzavednem nivoju osebe. Ko je glede na nivo Esence in prehodom osebe v neko drugo, ravno tako nevarno okolje ( npr.poroka s psihopatsko osebo), je nova frontna identiteta pripravljena, da pride na površje. Esenca nato kreira novi frontni , rezervni alter.To je naravni proces bazične obrambe, za zaščito primarnega alterja.
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Truth (Artificial soul)
MPD/DID is a mental disorder characterized by having at least one active (in present consciousness) \"alter\", that controls and socializes ego behaviour (superego)or even replaces it like front ego help, designed genetically if person as a child lives in extreme abusing circumstances within the primary family and later within dangerous social environment.
APA (American Psychiatric A.) in 1994 recognized DID/MPD as a disorder that become present after child being sexually abused.
Today we know that DID could erase even in adult ego level, not having specifically sexuall abuse behind, but also other abuses, like several \"break downs\", deep traumatic events and similar emotional crashes , that birth ego could not \"tolerate\" or \"survives.\"The treatment of DID (Dissociative Identity disorder) is not clinical, if person is not dangerous of its acts.On the contrary, today we can see the world in deep crisis, and mental health world organizatios shoud be aware of this problem and all prepare treatment programs where shoud not include antipsychotics. (Zyprexa, Risperdal, etc), just for pharmaceutic profits..
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CONNECT2 (Game)
In the mentioned structure of hemisferas in text bellow, we must picture it in red and black colur, who are origin for that symbol. In this genius simplification of the matter we can clearly see that hemisferas are connected through seeds as one entity or mashine.
Including the fact that serious problem such is MPD/DID, especially DID, the little brain is not mentioned in this symbol. If we simplify the little brains and add to it also the genesis forms of evolution such are hypophisis and her boss hypothalamus we must finally admitt the hidden fact of this disorder, who mainly arised from sexuall abuse in childhood and that is: The jang ( strongest hemisfera) must find the way to calm down the primary center even with the little help of zyprexa.(antipsychotic drug).
( DO NOT ABUSE MY TEXT WITH SOME "CORRECTION", JOKER)
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Jin/jang symbol (Akualno)
Mpd/DID is personality disorder when the left brain ( where ego is fixed) is no more the Cheaf of all its drives in the body as it happens within the mentaly healty personalities but includes more the right side of the brain, who becomes the automatic cheaf of all persons drives. Person brain use 20% of whole body energy supliers in normal state of working, while dissocative brain uses 10-30% more of normal use of whole body energy acumullations. Much talking about Jin/Jang these days in the public understanding of China feng shui symbol,representing Brain, we can see, the Female side (dark) and Male side( bright), different, but having seed of one another. Though, we do not no, if this are left or split minded brains.
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SEBSTVO (Selbst)
Some of the result of PTSD can be DDNOS, which in itself means that the moral part of the ego (superego), which is in normal operating conditions ego-controller and nothing more than that, and it is not an independent entity, leading the ego, but ego is to consult the conscious level of Superego at the first step of DID / MPD, such DDNOS is. In DDNOS superego is going to be a separate entitiy that leads its ego.When superego is not a self-controll machine and becomes a Separate and Independent Hormonal Machine, first step of dissociation of personality appears.In the normal conditions and structure of personality superego exists within its ego and communicate on the unconscious level of ego self structure which constructs the whole personality
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cool stuff (dr.Tranquilizer)
As long as we speak about MPD/DID, we can also include one common disorder, known as PTSD ( Post traumatic Stress Disorder). PTSD is an emotional disturbance, known mainly in after war soldiers, is also an mental desease,( among many others) which is not to be treated with common antipsychotic drugs, such as Rispero or similar.
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itd. (Super)
Dopo il 1970, la prima apparizione di Sindrome di Burnout, che può portare per primo depersonalizacione disturbo dissociativo DDNOS: continuare il BS può anche causare altri problemi.
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Rock me Yah (Eminem)
Je pense certainement que la théorie freudienne de la personnalité peuvent être appliquées dans la personnalité avec MPD / DID en tant que victimes de la libido incontrôlable des personnes bipolaires et schizophrènes
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mathematician (Junction)
First of all, if we talk here about split personality disorder such as MPD/DID is, we have to lead one goal, the junction.
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( bored) (Lord)
In DID situation ( Dissociative identity disorder) first of all, the ego fears its super ego:The hostility of the superego is the danger situation which the ego must avoid Superego is connected with the environment, local area as well as further with other people, especially family of self person, and works like admin to ego. Usually, like policeman, therorist, or Cia agent. Ego is scared of his own superego after being apart as mind division on Ego and SuperEgo, and before Id as a primarilly sexuall entity is being shut down. Sometimes happened organic. Woman went to premature menopausa, or men are slower, even like preasts do not have sexuall desires together with different s.structure. After Id is shut down, Ego and superego can work as one.
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server (kurir IVo)
Svojedobno disociativne osobe ( DiD, sa najmanje 2 poremećaja identiteta, ) smatrane su, kao razcepljene ličnosti, u smislu odvojenog Ega i Alter Ega (drugi \"ja\", po Jungu) Također Shizofrene osobe su se u popularnom tisku zamenjivale sa disociativnim, a to je velika pogreška. Znamo, da su shizofreniki agresivni, lutnjavi, haluciniraju o tome, da jih netko dotičan ili neka viša sila, sa kojom je dotični povezan,proganja, da jih hoče fizički ili psihički uništiti, a nasuprot tome, oni si jako agresivni, vođeni od nekog patogenog agensa, koji ne možemo zvati čak ni superego. Ako to on jest, onda je ta SE vrlo patološko naravnana struktura. Kod blažeg oblika Did-a, za kojeg znamo, da ne proniče samo skroz spolnu zloupotrebu osobe, nego iz više razloga( finansijski krah, posttravmatski stres, razvod braka, itd) dvije osobnosti disociirane ličnosti, surađuju zajednički kao odbrambeni mehanizam nasuprot osobi koja je izvršila uzrok, zbog koga se ta dotična ličnost disociirala. Takođe bi ponovio, da te disociirane ličnosti, ne predstavljeju nikakvu opasnost nasuprot okolini, već izključivo odbrambeno djeluju prema bilo kojem agresoru. Sa, u novije vreme, na osnovu istraživanja, amereički su psihijatri ustanovili, da je ipak agresivnost Muških Disociranih osoba sa 2 Ega za 33 % veča nego kod Ženskih osoba, ali kod zadnjih je veoma mala u usporedbi sa Muškim disociiranim osobama. Muške dis.osobe, ponekad, slično čak shizofreničaru, reagiraju napadalno na nepostoječu opasnost. Ali tu je treba biti veoma oprezan. Jer možda se ne radi o disociaciji.
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Somebody (Nobody)
Mehanisms of Self defence are very important models of thoughts, emotions and behaviour and are related to automatic reaction on perception of any danger. They are genetic structure within brain function, connecting almost all its areal, such as amigdala, thalamus, cortex and neocortex.
Very important aspect, talking about MPD/DID such as Defense system von SELF, is also a question, how many Defense systems actually exist.
For example,Freud talked about 10 D.mehanisms ( regresssion, reactive formation, isolation, projection, introjection, turning against self, intelektualization, kompenzation, substitution, sublimation). Even later, this list was improved by many scientists with anticipation, devalvation and finally dissociation.
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Lilly (Lilly_rex)
se strinjam z g. (ga?) Trinity, bi kar v amerikanščini nadaljevala.
I agree with missis Trinity, that second Ego in DiD represents no danger for other people, that is in dissociative disorder, where no incest took place. As we came further to hard incests or even rape incests ,ivents, the crush of SELF of Personality ( we always look at the structure of personality...Freud) becomes harder. Many personalities can occure, as we saw at the case of Cameron West, where 24 personalities erased. So, we can talk here of SELF DISORDERS, such as DID itself is. Further, very rare, this personalities are danger for other people, such as SuperEgo erase as Compulsive reactor to its own self. For the sake of Survival and as a part of DEFENSE SYSTEM that took place after SELF is breaken.
We can not HEAL raped person with ANTIPSCYHOTICS. (SUCH AS WE HEAL SCHIZOFRENICS, WHERE PATOLOGIC SUPEREGO WAS INFILTRADED OR RUN ( MOST OFTEN) PERSON SELF FROM OUTSIDE.
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Trinity (Laik)
After child being sexually abused ( or otherwise: Tortured by his/hers Bipolar Father and for.example Shizo mother) his or hers Ego can be Destroyed. Destroyed of fear, attacks and panic, that something really bad could occure. In that environment a second Ego can occure.He or she only helps child to survive even phisically, and the reality Ego2 has no danger within himself, herself, for other people. It is very important to know, that this kind of DID disturbance represents no danger to others, as might happen with MPD personalities.
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akcija (jahta)
ja,ja, ja tkole je, ne? vete kaj, tole se zlorabla ta forum za ene druge zadeve. Knjiga govori o abusu, najtežji obliki spolnega nasilja nad otrokom.Storilca oz.storilce bi blo potrebno po mojem ustrelit, ker, kaj? Spolno zlorabljen otrok ne bo nkol več v enem kosu. Če je bila penetracija storjena, lahko zadeva izpade v najboljšem primeru samo tako, da se integrira tisti del otrokove osebnosti, ki ga je mogoče integrirati. Ostalo je nakladanje.
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Mina (Mate)
Dozvolite mi, da i ja na ovom mjestu saopštim također i pojam fiksacije, kako je vidi Freud , a isto tako kao jedan od preduvjeta nastanka DID-a, a to je disociirane osobe.Fiksacija predstavlja trajno vezivanje dijela psihičke energije za neki objekt ili osobu kao način gratifikacije, odnosno način zadovoljavanja nagonskih impulzija. Upravo fiksaciju Freud je prepoznao kod neurotičnih bolesnika. Smatra se da što je jača fiksacija, to je veća mogućnost za razvoj kasnijih psihičkih oboljenja. Jasno je da je fiksacija potpuno ili bar većim dijelom nesvjesna.
Disociacija može da nastane kao posljedica duboke anskioznosti. Anksioznost je jedna od bazičnih pojava svih neuroza i ona se uvijek doživljava u egu. Time smo došli do pojam psihički konflikt između ida, ega i superega. Konflikt se uvijek javlja kad id i ego zajedno teže zadovoljenju neke nagonske ili emocionalne potrebe, a predstavnici vanjskog svijeta to ometaju. Takav konflikt mogao bi se nazvati eksterni i sam po sebi još nije neurotski. Ali kako ego djeteta razvojem postaje sve zreliji, on sve više vodi računa o realitetu, jer se po principu realiteta odvijaju svi ego procesi. Tako se konflikt sve više premješta od eksternog na interni. U određenom trenutku ego ne uspijeva da zadrži u dovoljnoj mjeri snage potiskivanja, nastaje relativna ličnost ili ličnosti ega kao da se ego cijepa u jedan dio, koji, kao što rekoh, može bit priljepljen, a koji vodi računa o realitetu i drugi dio koji negira opasnost realiteta, pa nadozvoljeni impuls ida probija u svjesno.
Situaciju komplicira i prisustvo treće instance – superega. Da bi propustio određene impulse ida, ego mora voditi računa ne samo o uvjetima realiteta, već i o unutarnjem senzoru – superegu, koji je pretežnim dijelom predsvjestan. Nastaje konflikt i sa superegom i taj konflikt se naziva još i internalizirani konflikt.
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(Yelow driver)
Jezus,kwa tale spodaj naklada. Total iz konteksta.Če je člouk Mpd, ga je pač treba sinhronizirat, ane? Wemo, kwa se dela-šus med dva pola, pa čao. Pride en SELF ven, definitivno.Vprašanje je le, na katero frekvenco, voltaža je znana, malo več kot 12V (navadna baterija), frekvenca bla, bla,
potem pa muzika na gama, beta ali delta valovanje. Pa še tuje jezike bo poten znal. Tega vsekakor naute objavl, ane?
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Turško sedlo (Patria)
Po poklicu sn avtoklepar.Strinjam se z enim, ki je rekel, da je DID v osnovi tak zelo komplicirana motnja. Mene v osnovi zadeva prizadene z vizualizacijo ene scene v Top Gunu (Tom Cruise), ko je njegov prijatelj bil zadet v vojaškem avionu.Če se ne motim, ni mogel pravočasno vklopit avtomatskega pilota, da bi ga spravil na varno.DID je v osnovi to. Ego je ranjen, mašina prevzame delo. Zdaj, vse je odvisno od kvalitete mašine, če se lahko tak izrazim. V primero, da je oseba študirala na Harvardu, ne pa v Bosni, bodo njeni temelji boljši, saj bo imela veliko kriznega znanja, praktičnih izkušenj, potrebno kreativnosti in zmožnost hitre reakcije v vsaki situaciji, v primero, da se nahaja še v območju, da se tak filmsko izrazim, obstreljevanja.Po drugi strani, bo ta ista mašina ne samo vodila do poti zaceljenja, ampak bo sama poskušala osebo ozavestiti.
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Si za ples (p.Janez)
V novejšem času,kot posledica raznih stresov, fobij in posttravmatskih doživetij tudi lahko nastanejo DID-i.Ni nujno, da samo zaradi posilstev. Značilno je, da kristjani, kakor je tudi statistično ugotovljeno, ne zapadejo zaradi tega v odvisnosti, kot so cigarete, kava, anksiolitiki,uspavala, droga. Moramo pa vedeti, da so to obvezni spremljevalci DID-a, torej-pomirjevala, diazepami, alprazolami, lorazepami.Včasih so psihiatri pri nas zdravili simptomatsko. Generalizirano anksiozno motnjo, ki je recimo lahko obvezni spremljevalec DID-a, so zdravili kot odvisnost in sicer popolnoma napačno-z antipsihotiki. Antipsihotiki, pa vemo, da lahko pustijo posledice, če niso pravilno uporabljeni.Ali nenamensko. So tud zelo dragi.(Rysperidon, ipd) Slučaji predoziranja, ipd. V knjigi pa lahko ugotovimo, da sam Cameron West ni bil odvisnik ne od pomirjeval, cigaret, kave,drog, pa tudi psihiatrinja je takoj ugotovila, da ga mora le hipnotizirati, da bi ugotovila, kaj vse se skriva v podzavesti.Ni jemal nobenih tablet.Danes v svetu to delajo hyponterapeuts.Lepo se imejte. Zelo pohvalno.
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Si za ples? (de.izy leš)
Govorimo o posilstvu, ki je umor duše. Je umor telesa.Je umor Ega.Tak pa vemo, da po posilstvu človek postane bolj ali manj ene vrste \"leš\". Ego Izteče skozi gateway port ( Iztok Ega)in iz njegovih sledi duša poskuša -kot tracker sestaviti koščke.To navadno ne uspe. Nastanejo novi Egi, ki pa morajo med sabo sodelovati znotraj fizičnega telesa posiljene osebe, kakor tudi zunaj njega. okolica jih mora sprejeti.Toliko.zdej grem na svojo www.
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Šokantno interesantna knjiga! (Teja)
...manjka del mojega originalnega komentarja...
Absolutno interesantna knjiga za vsakogar, ki ga zanima \"nekaj več\".
p.s.: Vsi, ki menite, da knjigi nekaj manjka, da je kvazi premalo strokovnosti itd. To je avtobiografska knjiga, ne knjiga strokovne medicinske stroke in s tega pogleda ji res nič ne manjka.
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Šokantno interesantna knjiga! (Teja)
Človeka šokira, kaj se vse lahko zgodi posamezniku! Incest je brez dvoma ena najbolj ogabnih stvari, vendar sedaj imam predvsem v mislih to motnjo multiplih oseb... Absolutno interesantna knjiga za vsakogar, ki ga zanima \
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Si za ples (zipper_ego1)
Zipper_rex, stvar ti je v temu, da gre za obrambni mehanizem Ega z veliko začetnico.
Zadeva pa je v genih. Jaz bom to simlificiro.Človek ima kromosomske pare in cca 35000 genov. No, na 12 krom.paru je pri ženskah XX in pri moških XY, me štekaš? Potem imamo mutirane gene. Na abuse se aktivira mutiran gen tzv. DEVIDER(Human Genom project, google), ki ego disociira. Pri moških je drugače, pri ženskah drugače. Devider sicer destrojira ego, vendar ga na nek način zaščiti pred popolnim razpadom.
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(Zipper_rex)
co-consciousness je začetno stanje pri Did ali DDNOS, ko se oseba še ne zaveda 2.ega, ki se ustvarja, kot v inkubatorju.Stanje hiperbole, v bistvu.Potrebna je ozaveščenost dodatne osebe v boxu, če tako rečem in njeno ali njegovo sodelovanje. Nikakor pa ni potrebe po kakšnem zippanju.Če me razumeš, si za ples.Ni pa jasno, kaj se zgodi, ko oseba zapusti abusersko okolje.Verjetno se druga oseba stopi s prvotnim jazom, oz.če po pravici povem, ego se nazaj skontaktira s superegom.
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(MPD)
Si za ples, preberi si tole, potem boš drgačnega mnenja....
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_word_shizo_no_more_one_divided_on_different_personalities
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si za ples? (didy)
si za ples, nimaš pojma.Poglej ostale izraze, v kemiji, fiziki, elektroniki.Najprej kemija: NaCl v določenih razmerah razpade na Na in Cl, se disociira.Najosnovnejša oblika MPD je alkoholik: ko je vkljopljen alter, ego spi.In Vino Veritas.Alter je njegov pravi jaz, oz.to kar dela, si njegov ego ne upa.
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Malce več strokovnosti (Si za ples?)
@ DiDY
Verjamem, da ste imeli dober namen osveščati širšo družbeno skupnost glede disociativnosti. To je pohvalno. Vendar pa je treba za to imeti tudi nekaj znanja, ki ne temelji le na leposlovju in umetnosti, ampak tudi na poznavanju strokovne literature. Sam sem se kar precej poglobil predvsem v slednje. Veliko strokovnih člankov je dostopnih na internetu. Najosnovnejšo informacijo pa lahko preberete tudi na wikipediji in tam lahko med drugim preberete tudi, da sta DID in MPD ena in ista reč, le da je MPD zastarelo strokovno poimenovanje za isto reč, ki jo stroka sedaj imenuje DID. Videti je, da tega ne veste, saj medseboj zamenjujete cel spekter \\\\\\\"disociativnosti\\\\\\\", na skrajnem koncu katerega je DID, z DID-om samim. Kar pa je seveda napačno. Disociativnost je namreč širši pojem in zajema celoten spekter disociativnih pojavov od najmilejših do najskrajnejših. Nekje vmes se nahaja tudi DDNOS za katerega je značilno, da obstaja co-consciousness med različnimi deli osebnosti (enostavno povedano, podosebnosti se zavedajo obstoja drug drugega, pri DID pa tega ni)
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zelo dobro (didy)
Gre za zelo močno disociativnost, kjer so osebe le deloma povezane med sabo, od začetka pa sploh ne. Tako da po mojem mnenju lahko ugotovimo, da se je iz multiple MPD ( multiply personality disorder) šele razvil v DID ( dissociative identity disorder).Novejša dognanja namreč kažejo, da se DID kaže v 2 vzporednih egih.
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